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GDP即英文Gross Domestic Product的缩写,也就是国内生产总值。通常对GDP的定义为一定时期内(一个季度或一年),一个国家或地区的经济中所生产出的全部最终产品和提供劳务的市场价值的总值。GDP是宏观经济中最受关注的经济统计数字,因为它被认为是衡量国民经济发展情况最重要的一个指标。6年前召开的十六大提出,全面建设小康社会的主要目标是,国内生产总值到2020年力争比2000年翻两番。国家统计局数据显示,2000年中国人均GDP为7078元,按当年汇率折算约为856美元,如果2020年实现翻两番,那么到时候人均GDP应该达到3500美元左右。

1970年,日本的GDP为2068亿美元,1980年为10279亿美元,到了1990年为30222亿美元,2000年为47661亿美元,2005 年为46638亿美元。乍一看,不由得觉得奇怪,1970年至2000年30年间,日本GDP居然翻了23倍,几乎每年增长80%;而从2001至 2005年间,尽管日本搭上了中国经济快车,每年经济增长了2%,但是以美元计算,日本GDP的绝对值以美元计算居然减少了1000亿美元。这是怎么回事呢?原来这一切都是汇率惹的祸,1995年时,日元兑美元最高曾经达到过78:1,后来随着日本经济泡沫的破裂,日元兑美元逐渐回跌到115-118: 1,开始稳定下来,于是就出现了这种怪现象。

我的论点:用人均美元GDP来衡量是否富裕的标准太过笼统,瑙鲁靠卖鸟粪磷酸盐就可以创造人均GDP达到石油富国和发达国家水平,冰岛靠金融衍生产品创造的虚拟价值就可以成为世界上“最幸福的国家”,这样有意思么?瑙鲁和冰岛的结果大家可想而知。远得不讲,只拿08年金融危机以来世界各国的货币兑换人民币的表现分析,新西兰元跌到3.3,澳大利亚元跌到4.2,新加坡元跌到4.4,加元跌到5.4,欧元跌到8.5,英镑跌到9.5,俄罗斯卢布一天暴跌 5%,三个月累计跌去30%,韩国元惨死,去年叫喧人均GDP突破20000美元呢,今年呢?一跌跌到解放前,50%贡献了,人均能不能到10000美元都难说,就算超过10000美元了,有啥用?照样买不起房,吃不起蔬菜、水果、肉。冰岛不提也罢,政府直接宣布破产。

日本人均GDP很高,可是生活水平真的比美国、西欧高很多么?非也!中国人均GDP很低,生活水平真的比日本低很多么?非也!一个月800美元,在中国一般的城市基本上算小康了,可是去了日本,租个房子吃饭都可能有问题,一个月500人民币,在郑州可以解决基本温饱了,一个月500美元,到了东京除了房租估计只能喝西北风;07年在香港度假的时候,发觉在香港生活真贵,特别是住和行,一个月5000港币在港岛和九龙只能租个放床的小屋,一上公交基本都是10几甚至几十港币,打个的计价器200米一跳,过个桥也要跳,跳的心慌,反正香港也不大,在港岛闲逛基本靠腿,怪不得社科院撰文,郑州收入2880相当于香港收入18500,看来一点都不错。拿人均GDP说事,本来就是很可笑的,GCD给全世界人民开的玩笑,大家还真当真了,幸福不幸福,生活质量有没有提高,不是拿美元能衡量的,90年的時候,日本GDP是3万多亿,我们那时是3000多亿,是我们的10倍,人均是我们的100倍。我那时候想,什么时候总量能追上日本呢?18年过去了,回首往事,真是感慨万分啊!
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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-4 07:42:42 | 显示全部楼层
大家难道没考虑过这个问题,用人均美元GDP来衡量是否富裕的标准是否合理呢?
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Robin  曼省名人  发表于 2009-2-4 20:41:23 | 显示全部楼层
GDP WITH CPI....OR GNP

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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-5 07:52:15 | 显示全部楼层
由于全球金融危机,中国现在所有关系到民生的产品都在降价,原本是通货膨胀的预期现已经转为通货紧缩的担忧
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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-6 11:45:31 | 显示全部楼层
这次全球性金融危机,从货币的保值度来看,人民币无疑是安全的避风港,很多人说外国投资要撤资了,说人民币要大幅贬值了,说中国经济要遭受巨大损失了,这不是痴人说梦么?从现在全球范围来看,哪个国家能有比中国更安全的金融避风港?97亚洲金融危机的时候人民币官方报价都保持不贬值,10年后的今天,中国的经济地位绝对比97年那时强不只多少倍,靠贬值来获取外贸的订单,这种下三烂的招数中国政府30年前玩儿过,现在没必要再玩儿了。现在中国在加快自主产业升级,这些阵痛说一个国家提升创新能力必须要忍受的。
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Robin  曼省名人  发表于 2009-2-6 20:42:18 | 显示全部楼层
Attacks on China’s cheap currency are overdone
CHINA has been accused of “manipulating” its currency by Tim Geithner, America’s new treasury secretary, and this week Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director of the IMF, said that it was “common knowledge” that the yuan was undervalued. You would assume that such strong claims were backed by solid proof, but the evidence is, in fact, mixed.
Of course China manipulates its exchange rate—in the sense that the level of the yuan is not set by the market, but influenced by foreign-exchange intervention. The real issue is whether Beijing is deliberately keeping the yuan cheap to give exporters an unfair advantage. From July 2005, when it abandoned its fixed peg to the dollar, Beijing allowed the yuan to rise steadily, but since last July it has again been virtually pegged to the greenback. And there are concerns that China may allow the yuan to depreciate to help its exporters—with worrying echoes of the beggar-thy-neighbour policies that exacerbated the Depression. But American politicians are wrong to focus only on the yuan’s dollar exchange rate. Since July the yuan has gained 10% in trade-weighted terms. It is up 23% against the euro, and 30% or more against the currencies of many other emerging economies.


In early 2005 two American senators brought a bill to Congress that threatened a tariff of 27.5% on all Chinese imports unless the yuan was revalued by that amount. This curiously precise figure was the midpoint of a range of estimates (15-40%) of the yuan’s undervaluation. The bill was dropped, but the yuan has since risen by that magic amount in real trade-weighted terms (see left-hand chart, below). So how much further should it rise?
Those who argue that the yuan is still too cheap point to three factors: China’s foreign-exchange reserves have surged; it has a huge current-account surplus; and prices are much cheaper in China than in America. Start with official reserves. If China had not bought lots of dollars over the past few years, the yuan’s exchange rate would have risen by more. So does the yuan’s fixed level against the dollar in recent months mean that intervention has risen? On the contrary, in the fourth quarter of 2008, China’s reserves barely rose, despite a record current-account surplus. This suggests that private capital is now flowing out of China.

Charles Dumas, an economist at Lombard Street Research, argues that outflows of hot money could become a flood if China did not have capital controls. Currency “manipulation” amounts to more than foreign-exchange intervention; China also has strict capital controls which, although leaky, keep private savings at home. If Beijing scrapped those controls, firms and households would want to invest abroad to diversify their assets. In other words, if the value of the yuan was not “manipulated” and instead was set entirely by the free market, it might fall, not rise.
Some argue that China’s large current-account surplus is incontrovertible proof that the yuan is too cheap. Morris Goldstein and Nicholas Lardy, at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, DC, estimate that the yuan’s real trade-weighted value needs to rise by another 10-20% to eliminate the surplus. But other economists say it is wrong to define the yuan’s fair value by the revaluation required to eliminate the current-account surplus. Trade does not have to be perfectly balanced to be fair. And China’s surplus partly reflects its high saving rate. A stronger yuan will help to shift growth away from exports towards domestic consumption, but is unlikely to do so on its own. In 2005 Messrs Goldstein and Lardy reckoned that the yuan was 20-25% undervalued; it has since risen by that, yet the surplus has doubled. To reduce China’s external gap, policies to boost domestic spending will be more important than its exchange rate.
Beefing up the argumentAn alternative way of defining the “fair” value of a currency is purchasing-power parity (PPP): the idea that, in the long run, exchange rates should equalise prices across countries. The Economist’s Big Mac index offers a crude estimate of how far exchange rates are from PPP. Our January update found that a Big Mac cost 48% less in China than in America, which might suggest that the yuan is 48% undervalued against the dollar. But by this gauge, the currencies of virtually all low-income countries are undervalued, since prices are generally lower in these countries than in rich ones (see right-hand chart, above). This is the basis of the Balassa-Samuelson theory which holds that average prices will be higher in countries with higher productivity (ie, high GDP per head), because higher wages will push up prices in labour-intensive goods and services. This implies that it is natural for China’s exchange rate to be below its PPP, but as it gets richer and productivity rises, its real exchange rate should rise.
PPP is a long-term concept. However, the relationship between prices and GDP per head can be used to estimate the short-term fair value of a currency relative to others. Using a simple model, which adjusts the Big Mac index for differences in countries’ GDP per head and relative labour costs, gives the result that the yuan is now less than 5% undervalued.
A new study* by Yin-Wong Cheung, Menzie Chinn and Eiji Fujii arrives at a similar result using World Bank price data across the whole economy. Previous assessments of such data had found that the yuan was around 40% undervalued. But the latest price surveys have raised the estimated price level in China (and so reduced GDP per head measured at PPP). The authors conclude that the yuan was 10% undervalued against the dollar in 2006, which means that it might now be close to parity.
The evidence that the yuan is significantly undervalued is hardly rock-solid. It probably is still a bit too cheap, and it would certainly be a mistake for Beijing to allow it to fall, not least because this would risk a protectionist backlash from abroad. In the longer term, the yuan needs to keep rising against a basket of currencies. But for now, some of the accusations being thrown at China are wide of the mark.

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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-7 01:42:58 | 显示全部楼层
当大家遇见的“股神”越来越多的时候
危险将会出现

当各个论坛一片喧嚣,众多高手弹冠相庆的时候
危险日益临近

当著名报刊网站,出现了“五千点不是梦”“重回六千点”的时候
危险的手掌即将扼住你的脖子
那就是离场的最后时刻



在经过2008年超过50%的下跌之后,2009年1月中国股市取得了不错的开门红。数据统计显示,在刚刚过去的1月份,中国股市在周边股市普跌的状态下逆势而行,走出喜人的上涨行情,其中上证综合指数累计上涨9.3%,位居全球十大股市之首。相比之下,美国道指今年1月份下跌了8.8%,是美股有史以来最糟糕的开局。

据Wind统计数据显示,除深证综合指数上涨10.3%,上证综合指数累计上涨9.3%,其他主要国际股指累计均为负增长,瑞士苏黎世市场指数下跌4.1%,台湾加权指数下跌7.5%,纳斯达克综合指数下跌9.5%。业内人士表示,在经过了去年的深度回调后,中国股市有 “强烈”的反弹趋势。

华泰证券相关人士表示,得益于中国政府连续推出的大力经济刺激措施以及国内消费市场的惊人潜力,中国股市进入新年以后持续逆势走高,投资者信心不断恢复,进入股市的资金也越来越多。有研究机构数据表明,截至1月28日,各类中国股票基金累计吸引资金净流入4.59亿美元,高居各国之首。

业内人士分析,从A股行情来看,目前属于长期战略建仓的机遇期;而从图形上分析,今年一、二季度将会出现一波行情,出现阶段性高点。
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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-17 11:14:58 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 阿周 于 2009-2-17 10:19 编辑

关于日本GDP很有意思的一组数据

日本的国家统计局昨日公布2008年全年以及第四季度的经济数据,日本去年全年的GDP为5073713亿日元,比2007年实际增长-0.7%,其中第四季度更是暴跌12.7% (http://www.esri.cao.go.jp/en/sna/qe084/gdemenuea.html),托日元升值和全球主要经济体萎缩需求减少的福。
  
不过,由于日元汇率的升幅远远高出日本GDP的跌幅,如果按照去年年底1美元兑90日元的汇价计算,日本去年的GDP折算成美元为56375亿美元,比2007年的43838亿美元增长28.6%

大家看清汇率的“伟大功效”了吧~

附录:

2007年全世界GDP为543116亿美元,GDP居世界前十位的国家分别是美国(138438亿美元,占25.5%)、日本(43838亿美元、8.1%)、德国(33221亿美元、6.1%)、中国(32508亿美元、6%)
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阿周  游客  发表于 2009-2-17 11:30:25 | 显示全部楼层
胡锦涛代表第十六届中央委员会在十七大报告中提出,实现人均国内生产总值(GDP)到2020年比2000年翻两番

2000年国内生产总值 1.08万亿美元 x 2 x 2 = 4.32万亿美元
    
来自The World Factbook 《世界概况》(由美国中央情报局(CIA)出版)最权威的报道,2008年底世界各国GDP如下(单位:百万美元)

1、United States 14330000 
2、Japan 4844000
3、China (PRC) 4222000
    
考虑到人民币的升值,因此在今后的11年内,我们要紧密团结于党中央,坚持0增长,才能实现胡主席的目标,大家一定要众志成城,心往一块使,不要贪功冒进,一定要稳重、稳重、稳重、、、
  
2000年人均GDP 856美元 x 2 x 2 = 3424美元
    
根据最新数据估算

2009年约3700美元(平均汇率)

还有11年,大家看着办吧
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